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Posted - 05/30/2003 :  03:25:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From: Toni (Original Message) Sent: 4/2/2001 4:53 PM

If I want to learn STAGE HYPNOSIS do I Have To Go Through Hypnotherapy Classes First????????

Thank You!


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Posted - 05/30/2003 :  03:25:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From: Lindsay Sent: 4/3/2001 4:17 AM

No, of course not. Find a working, or retired stage hypnotist & learn directly. Alternatively contact Gil Boyne & Westwood Publishing
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Posted - 05/30/2003 :  03:25:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From: Darleneca Sent: 4/21/2001 8:58 AM

I am a nurse/clinical hypnotherapist and stage hypnotist. I strongly disagree with the response you received. Absolutely you need a working knowledge of hypnosis. What happens if someone has a severe abreaction? You wouldn't know what to do, freak out, lose control and your audience would also freak out. People are petrified enough about hypnosis. Our field doesn't need anything or anyone to exacerbate or qualify the already present fears!

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Posted - 05/30/2003 :  03:26:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From: Lindsay Sent: 4/21/2001 6:47 PM

Please re-read may statement!!

I suggested that Toni do an appreticeship with a stage hypnotist, or contact Gil Boyne who was a stage hypnotist & is head of an world wide organisation that trains hypnotherapists. He founded Westwood Publishing which had published books by many great Hypnotists & Hypnotherapists. Another point, often overlooked by NLP, Ericksonian & other Medical/Psychiatric/Welfare people is that Stage Hypnotists are Hypnotists first & that stage Hypnotists like Dave Elman taught many 'medical' people how to do Hypnosis. Undoubtedly some people can have a bad experience with Hypnosis & Hypnotherapy... but it is also possible to have a bad experience riding a bike, a horse or going swimming - so bad you might be seriously injured or end up dead. I'd be interested to read about real cases where people actually came to great harm after hypnosis. The roots of hypnosis & the trance state are in Asia where people often go into trance states without harm coming to them.
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Posted - 05/30/2003 :  03:26:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From: adler Sent: 4/22/2001 7:03 AM

Linsey, be carefull for what you ask, you may actauly get it :) try reading "investigating stage hypnosis" by tracy okeefe, and then perhaps your "of course not" might turn into something like "well it could be possible"

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Posted - 05/30/2003 :  03:27:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From: Lindsay Sent: 4/25/2001 5:03 AM

Point taken Frank. A current First Aid Certificate would also be a valuable qualification. Recently a study reported in Lancet blamed the onset of Autism on measles/mumps vaccinations. Maybe just coincidence. Maybe not. There are always possibilities & risks.
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Posted - 05/30/2003 :  03:27:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From: sandie Sent: 8/6/2001 2:00 PM


If you want a thorough stage hypnosis training with everything from the actual hypnosis to marketing yourself & your shows to appearance & presentation--the works there is a guy who not only is a stage hypnotist in practice but curretly runs a clinical practice & trains hypnotists for clinics & stage. I've trained with him for both & he really hits it all in a concise manner. He has used hypnosis NLP, Ericksonian technique's in huge variety of client cases. His name is Scott McFall. He does seminars from time to time but I don't know if he has one scheduled in the near future. He's currently doing practice management seminars. For more inoformation you can call hime at 701-250-9290. You'll be so glad you did.
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Posted - 05/30/2003 :  03:27:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From: indyhypnotist Sent: 8/11/2001 10:02 AM

Stage Hypnosis should be illgeal IMHO It does nothing for our profession and also lowers our credibility. You don't see others medical fields doing stage antics in such a way as to misinform the public. Stage and movies has done more harm to our profession than any qoute''bad hypnotist'' unqoute. Wise-up people. For a very few to ruin what we are trying to lift out of obscurity is rediculous.

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Posted - 05/30/2003 :  03:28:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From: Lindsay Sent: 11/1/2001 3:59 AM

Stage Hypnotists - Dave Eman, Gil Boyne, Ormond McGill & many others trained Medical Practitioners, Dentists & other professionals in Hypnotherapy skills.
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Posted - 05/30/2003 :  03:28:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From: knight Sent: 2/24/2002 5:11 PM

Don't know why all the fuss, most Provinces, States, and countries ban Stage Hypnosis these days, so it's a dying proffession, for which we should be truly greatful (G) TerryE
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Posted - 06/27/2003 :  08:28:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The American stage hypnotist purports to being the worlds GREATEST HYPNOTIST
Try his website
He apparently sells a course so that you can emulate his skills
What a great day
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Posted - 10/15/2004 :  9:50:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know it has been a while since this thread stopped, but know that the state of California once looked for cases of harm done by hypnosis when they were considering strongly regulating its use by non-psychologists and non-psychiatrists, non-MD's etc etc. They could find none and abandoned their pursuit of such regulation.

I learned this from Gil Boyne in the 1980s.

I am a Ph.D. psychologist (retired) who used hypnosis and I am here to tell you that you do not need all sorts of college education to do hypnosis---in fact they don't teach it in most colleges & universities to my knowledge, which admittedly, pretty much stopped in the 1980s when I retired from my practice and got into another career field.
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Posted - 12/26/2004 :  10:50:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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From: adler Sent: 4/22/2001 7:03 AM

Linsey, be carefull for what you ask, you may actauly get it :) try reading "investigating stage hypnosis" by tracy okeefe, and then perhaps your "of course not" might turn into something like "well it could be possible"


Oh yes, Tracy O'Keefe, the lady who got her "degree" from a mail-order house in California (no residency required, all mail course work, no fact checking on dissertations) and who quoted the "case" of Svengali and Trilby as factual.

Quality source, this book most certainly is not!

Linsey, get professional, hands-on training and certification from a reputable hypnosis organization, like the NGH or Gil Boyne's organization. Several reasons come to mind, but a big one is the issue of liability insurance. Most insurers won't touch someone without a credible certification. Period.

Also, you have to have the training to handle the admittedly few abreactions you might have when doing hypnosis shows, learn ho to obviate their appearance and to recognize the signals that you will get from a volunteer who is about to abreact.

These reasons alone are solid grounds for getting a certification. However, such a certification will not make you a stage hypnotist. You will need a show. That means a script, a definite set of routines to do and the ability to juggle them as you adapt to the responses of your volunteers. Every show will be different as they will react differently on stage.

Hope this helps!

Lee Darrow, C.H.

"No matter where you go, there you MIGHT be!" - Heisenberg
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Posted - 01/17/2005 :  6:44:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
- Mark Cunningham's Trucor Series VHS 8 videotape Stage hypnosis course is excellent.
- Join the Society of Applied Hypnosis - www.societyofhypnosis.com
It's a performance-orientated hypnosis training ... you learn my doing.
It combines the best of stage and therapeutic techniques.

- My favorite audio-only RECORDED (CD - ONLY stage hypnosis course)
is from the first and still one of my all time remaining favorite stage
hypnotists ... His name is Scott McFall.

- Join Somnambulistic Sleepwalkers FREE HYPNOSIS PRACTICE GROUPS
The LA group continually has name stage hypnotists like Justin Tranz, Richard Rumble, Tom Silver and many others demonstrate their abilities FREE before the group and you get hands on practice. The best way to be introduced to a solid foundation of techniques .. and it's free - check out the groups at - http://www.trancecoach.com

-Of course, an inexpensive way to learn stage hypnosis is to get
Ormand McGill's bible - Stage Hypnosis (trucor.com) ... and get
a couple of show tapes from performers ...... In stage hypnosis,
what you see is what you get ... Justin Tranz (and I know he's
a member of LA Sleepwalkers) has the best show tapes in the biz.
His choreographed show from Vegas with exquisite lighting, dead
on music cues and great videography is the best and most detailed in the biz.

Just my opinion.

John Petrocelli
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  03:43:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have trained Justin Tranz, Marshall
Sylver, Mark Yuzik, Michael Mesmer and at least twenty other stage hypnotists.
I require a 200 hr. training in hypnotherapy in order to learn stage hypnotism as well. There are more than 600 stage hypnotists working in the USA and there has never been a single DOCUMENTED case of harm resulting from the use of hypnosis by either clinical or stage hypnotists.

Rule of Law-- is that in the absence of evidence innocence must be presumed.

Gil Boyne
[Gil Passed Away May 5, 2010]
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