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hageej

USA
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  12:16:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yesterday a good friend of mine was hypnotized against her will
While she was under hypnosis the doctor "made her forget about her fiancee" i didnt believe it would work untill i talked to her after she had undergone the procedure, with that said , and i dont know if this is the right place to post this, i dont even know if there is anything i can do to help but does anyone know of anyway to fix this

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HypnoDoc

USA
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  12:26:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit HypnoDoc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello,

A few quick questions... You say Doctor and procedure - these are not terms used for a Hypnotherapist. Was this in a medical Doctor's office? Or are you saying she went to a Hypnotherapist and was hypnotized? If so, how was that against her will? Did she go seeking to forget the person or for some other reason?

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patrickg

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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  12:57:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit patrickg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You know the doctor "made her forget about her fiancee" -
were you there during this?
If she forgot about her fienacee, should would not be able to tell you what she had forgotten??

Patrick Glancy, CI, BCH
www.salemhypnosissolutions.com
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hageej

USA
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  12:58:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no this was done by her parents, who threatened to cut off her tuition if she didnt, and i dont know the terms, i know she didnt want to forget him she told me so 20 minutes before they did what ever the hell they did , and i am sorry for psoting in the wrong thread i just need to know if there is something i can to do help her
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hageej

USA
9 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2009 :  01:00:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry for double posting but: it was done at her home, and no i wasnt present at the time or it would have never happened,
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patrickg

USA
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  09:07:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit patrickg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In order to answer your question, more information would be needed.
What country was this in?
How old is she?
The parents hypnotized her, or had her hypnotized by someone?
Is she as concerned about this as you are?
Has she forgotten or been made to change her mind by the withholding of tuition?


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hageej

USA
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  09:14:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alright
She is in USA, Iowa
she is 18
Her parents had someone else do it
She is concerned , not as much as i am it seems
And yes she has forgotten,but i dont think they have held it yet since she went through with it

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patrickg

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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  09:25:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit patrickg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If it is just an amnesia hypnosis trick, it can be worked around and probably won't last very long on it's own.

Personally I find it hard to believe that she has just 'forgotten' about him. There is likely something else involved. If we can agree to disagree about that part of things for now, we'll see if there is something you can do to help her.

Was the person the parents brought in a hypnotist? Doctor? What?
Can she give you the name of the person the parents used? Does she remember the process the person used? What was said? Was medication used?


Patrick Glancy, CI, BCH
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hageej

USA
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  09:35:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know many of the details right now because i am out of state on vacation, i am pretty sure he was just a regular hypnotist , and to be honest i always thought hypnotism was a load of crap.(sorry) no she doesn't remember the process , and she talked to her fiancee last night, she remebered a few things , although i dont know if that helps or not, she is in class at the moment and i cant call her , but when i can get more information i will post it , thank you for your help
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patrickg

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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  10:05:26 AM  Show Profile  Visit patrickg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OK, I'll wait to hear from you.

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HypnoDoc

USA
365 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2009 :  5:14:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit HypnoDoc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Speaking of "loads of crap" - this thread has a real odor to it.

So she was ambushed by her parents in Iowa, who (over the holidays) brought in a Hypnotist to "make her" forget a guy she was going to marry. If she didn't forget then she was going to be cut off from her college funding. The session was a success but she is talking to him on the phone.

I would say you are missing quite a lot of information. It sounds more like an intervention for drug or alcohol abuse. They don't use Hypnosis for this situation. They do use emotional elements of family and friends in the home environment to "convince" the individual to change their present course onto a new path. Could this be what happened?

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patrickg

USA
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  5:29:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit patrickg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree HypnoDoc... I'm sorta waiting for the punchline...

I am hoping she will find some of this after getting additional info from her friend. 18 years old, going to school and engaged is not an ideal situation. I believe there is much more to it.
It's all second-hand info at this point.

No personal disrespect toward you, hageej. Just hear a lot of stories here, and in the office, that don't pan-out. Giving you the benefit of the doubt to see what more you are told. If things are as you believe, I'll do what I can to help.


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hageej

USA
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  5:47:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay let me explain this a little more in detail, She has been dating this guy for a year and a few months her family has never liked him because he doesnt believe in god and they are really REALLY devout Mormons, they have tried to break her and him up for the last few months, telling her things like it is him or her family things like that and it didnt work ,so her grandparents and parents hired a hypnotherapist or at least i am guessing she said his name tag said Doctor F
They told her unless she went through with it they would cut off her tuition to college, the reason she was talking to her fiancee was because i called him and put them on a three way conversation as she instructed me to before the events unfolded, look i know it sounds like a bad short story or something and if i wasnt a friend of hers i wouldnt have believed it , and thank you , believe me i have no reason to make this stuff, she said he didnt give her any medication, it was done in her livivng room, i dont know if this helps any but thank you

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hageej

USA
9 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2009 :  5:52:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HypnoDoc

Speaking of "loads of crap" - this thread has a real odor to it.

So she was ambushed by her parents in Iowa, who (over the holidays) brought in a Hypnotist to "make her" forget a guy she was going to marry. If she didn't forget then she was going to be cut off from her college funding. The session was a success but she is talking to him on the phone.

I would say you are missing quite a lot of information. It sounds more like an intervention for drug or alcohol abuse. They don't use Hypnosis for this situation. They do use emotional elements of family and friends in the home environment to "convince" the individual to change their present course onto a new path. Could this be what happened?



I dont know what happened personally because i have left on vacation to virginia to see my family but

I dont think so , she literally had no idea who he was when she called me after it was done, and she isnt a very good liar so i would have been able to tell if it was a lie or not,
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patrickg

USA
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  6:05:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit patrickg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ah, religion - the best hypnotist of them all. I was honestly guessing this. So a dysfunctional/controlling family situation. I wonder what was driving her to marry so soon.

You're not sure if it was a hypnotherapist? Can you ask her to find out this guys full name? I'll contact him.

Sounds like a lot of pressure put on her to change her mind. It's also called manipulation. No formal hypnosis needed.

It would be good to hear directly from her. I understand you care about your friend and are worried for her. I would like to know she is as motivated as you are?

I would be interested in hearing what her perception is of her memory both now and prior to this home intervention. The focus then would be to gain her perspective - free from outside influence. That would leave her able to make a choice based upon her own current beliefs.

I would not be interested in re-creating the old fiance status of the guy as I suspect it would have been artificially affected by the controlling nature of her parents beliefs and actions. She would be left to re-create that if she so chooses.

How's all that sound?

Patrick Glancy, CI, BCH
www.salemhypnosissolutions.com

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hageej

USA
9 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2009 :  6:34:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That sounds good to me, and thank you for believing me , i asked her what his name was and she said she didn't know all she knew was his name tag which said Doctor F and she really cant ask her parents they told her it was for some weight loss crap, i am getting more from her as quickly as i can but i am somewhat worried about her well being from a mental standpoint , if you give me some suggestions on how to approach her on the subject i would be eternally grateful, if you think i am doing her a disservice please tell me

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patrickg

USA
724 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2009 :  6:57:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit patrickg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Have you seen her face to face since the intervention?

Tell her you're worried about what you understand happened and how it may be making her feel. Let her know help is available if she wants it. Let her know you don't want to change her mind again, you just want to make sure she's Ok, and happy?

I would suspect she is not very trusting of others and possibly hypnotists in particular? If she is at all interested in help, let her know I grew up mormon. My dads side of the family are all mormon. I am not. Send her to my web page if that helps. Maybe that will let her be more comfortable.

And as this is turning into more personal information, let's switch to email. You can email me at patrick@glancyhypnosis.com

Thank HypnoDoc for the use of his forum :)

Patrick Glancy, CI, BCH
www.salemhypnosissolutions.com
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hageej

USA
9 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2009 :  2:50:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes thank you for the use of the forum, i have sent an email
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patrickg

USA
724 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2009 :  3:47:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit patrickg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Did you not get my reply?

Patrick Glancy, CI, BCH
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patrickg

USA
724 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2009 :  7:34:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit patrickg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Update on this for HypnoDoc -

The young lady was lied to by the parents and told it was for a weight loss session. The hypnotist, with a name tag that said something like "Dr. F" gave suggestions to forget.

They should be wearing off soon on their own.

Would really like to talk to "Dr. F".

Patrick Glancy, CI, BCH
www.salemhypnosissolutions.com
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hypknomark

USA
79 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2009 :  4:36:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit hypknomark's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have had people ask me to help them forget things. Knowing this will probably not last, I tend to shy away from that and work on reducing the emotional impact of the memory.

Mark V Johnson
Clinical Hypnotherapist
Past Life Regression
Life Between Lives
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