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bonkers

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Posted - 09/27/2010 :  9:46:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had my first hypnotherapy session the other day but dont know if I was under hypnosis - Dont know if it worked! Ill describe what happened in the session. Please comment about the following:

At the start of the session, I had to hold my hands apart in front of my face. The hypnotherapist told me that my hands are like magnets and will start to move together she repeated this over. At no time did my hands move together. After awhile she clapped her hands loudly and placed my hands back onto the armchair. We then moved on to another exercise.

While under hypnosis, I was asked to move my finger to indicate I was in a happy peaceful place (I chose a beach). Actually, she asked my sub-conscious. Should I have knowingly moved the finger? I did. But I think this should have happened without my knowledge, my sub-conscious right?!

The hypnotherapist said every time she touches my finger I will go to my happy place and every time she touches the back of my hand I will come back to the room but still be very relaxed. I was trying to think it but didnt feel I was there or here. Am I trying too hard? If properly under hypnosis, should I not need to try so hard?

While under hypnosis, sitting in the armchair my shoulder started to ache and I needed to move it, to get comfortable again. I didnt move as I wanted to keep concentrating on the session. This made me think of the ache throughout the session. If properly under hypnosis, should I have not felt the ache or thought of the need to move? Would it have been OK to move, to get comfortable?

She told me its OK to speak, and ask questions if I needed to. I didnt want to say anything, again because I wanted to concentrate and focus on being relaxed. She ended up asking me a question so I had to respond with a yes.

At the end, after the actual hypnosis session, before we finished up she asked me how I felt. Do I feel different? I think she really wanted to hear yes but truthfully I felt no noticeable change I told her that.

I was asked to have more sessions but havent made another appointment as I dont know if I was hypnotized. Its bloody expensive so am very reluctant to go again when I dont know conclusively if it worked for me. By the way, this first session was mainly centred on relaxing.

patrickg

USA
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Posted - 09/27/2010 :  9:51:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit patrickg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Did you have notable results after the session?

Patrick Glancy, CI, BCH
www.salemhypnosissolutions.com
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bonkers

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Posted - 09/27/2010 :  10:05:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
GDay Patrick

I would answer that as no, not really. It was a session focused on relaxation. I didn't feel any differences in the following hours or days.
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patrickg

USA
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Posted - 09/27/2010 :  10:12:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit patrickg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OK. Sometimes people get a little too focused on the process of the session when the results are what it's about.

Ideomotor (the finger raising) can happen with conscious awareness but should have moved with subconscious control. A subtle and tricky line to discern.

It does not sound like she did even basic testing for depth during the session.

And the "testing" prior to the sessions were both fails.. and she continued....She should have probably gone back to the 'pretalk' portion of the session.

Sounds like there were issues with the induction, deepening, and post-hypnotic interview. From what you described, If she were my student, she would have some things to work on/improve.

You should contact her, let her know you had no results and were unsatisfied with the process of the session. Maybe she can explain things. But, if she can't...

If a client is unhappy with me and/or my work, I would want to know what and why.

Patrick Glancy, CI, BCH
www.salemhypnosissolutions.com

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bonkers

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Posted - 09/27/2010 :  10:20:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Before I sat in the armchair. She asked me to hold a pendulum and move it side to side then stop it then move it forward and back. I was able to do that fine though. But not the magnet hands, I felt not anywhere close to being able to move it. Is this similar to the basic test you spoke about?
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patrickg

USA
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Posted - 09/27/2010 :  10:24:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit patrickg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
pendulum stuff is... silly in my opinion. Anyone can pass a pendulum test. Doesn't mean anything.

Yes, magnetic hands is a "preparedness test". Sometimes inaccurately called a "suggestibility test".

Patrick Glancy, CI, BCH
www.salemhypnosissolutions.com
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bonkers

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Posted - 09/27/2010 :  10:40:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Think I'll find another place. I didn't feel super comfortable with this one anyway. Right from the start I thought I didn't gel with her.
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patrickg

USA
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Posted - 09/28/2010 :  12:07:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit patrickg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah... make use of the free consultations... if they don't offer one, ask for it anyway. Do a few of those prior to making your choice of who to work with. There is science to hypnosis. There is also a fair amount of "art"... which means, you gotta find the hypnotist that you feel comfortable with. It's in your best interest.

From what you described - In my opinion, that lady should offer you the money back... The client's satisfaction always comes first.. whatever form that may take.

Patrick Glancy, CI, BCH
www.salemhypnosissolutions.com
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bonkers

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Posted - 09/28/2010 :  7:13:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by patrickg

...that lady should offer you the money back...
Unfortunately, it's never that easy for people to part with their money.
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patrickg

USA
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Posted - 09/28/2010 :  8:40:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit patrickg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I know it...
Was thinking it when I wrote it...

Patrick Glancy, CI, BCH
www.salemhypnosissolutions.com
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therapist in NY

USA
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Posted - 03/27/2011 :  10:59:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit therapist in NY's Homepage  Reply with Quote
First thing I would suggest to you, is to discuss all your concerns with your hypnotherapist. Don't worry about her feelings. In order to succeed we really need to know our clients' truthful experiences. As far as I can see, your first session was "normal". In the state of hypnosis, even the deepest one, you DO hear what the hypnotist is saying to you, and you DO answer to it if you want. You also should move if you need it in order to feel more comfortable. Hypnosis is a state of deep relaxation. When you are not comfortable it interferes with your experience of relaxation. Also keep in mind that the more you practice hypnosis or self-hypnosis, the easier it will be for you to get yourself into this state of relaxation. I would suggest that you keep your second appointment, and talk to your therapist.

www.hypnosis.rivinson.com
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kchopping

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Posted - 04/22/2011 :  09:08:09 AM  Show Profile  Visit kchopping's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It is often the case that a client feels unsure about being under in a first session. 9 times out of 10 a second and subsequent session that question never occurs again.
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Bennu Lugh

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Posted - 12/16/2011 :  11:30:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit Bennu Lugh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm going with Patrick on this one. Her assessments of your suggestibility failed. She should have continued to do a little more work before trying to give any other suggestions.

I like using the ideomotor response as well, and there's an easy way of observing whether it was done intentionally or automatically by the client. If you had done it intentionally she either isn't experienced enough to have recognized it or she was deluding herself.

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jarrowwx

USA
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Posted - 01/04/2012 :  2:43:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit jarrowwx's Homepage  Send jarrowwx an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I remember the first time I was professionally hypnotized. At first, I thought I hadn't been hypnotized, because the experience was so familiar. But the more I thought about it, the more I realized, it had worked, quite well in fact. I could tell, because I had experienced vivid imagery that was spontaneous and in some cases indistinguishable from physical sensory experience.

On the other hand, on my first session with a new client, I take my time to take them as deeply as they are capable. I've never had a client who didn't go deep, who didn't experience astonishment at finding out how much time had elapsed. I've never had anyone question whether or not they were hypnotized.

The fact that you felt like you and her did not really "gel" may have something to do with it. The fact that she was not getting results is a reflection of her and her techniques. As others have said, you might want to talk to her. But in all honesty, if you don't feel comfortable doing that, then don't worry about it. You're not obligated.

My suggestion for you is, don't give up. Find local therapists that provide free consultations. Meet with them. If you don't "gel" with them, don't book an appointment.

Another option is to develop the ability to go deeply into trance. Then, even a weak, inexperienced hypnotherapist will be successful with you. :) For that, I'm sure any of us will be happy to work with you online.

John Arrowwood, CHt
www.JohnArrowwood.com
503.863.4823
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gerlie

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Posted - 09/24/2012 :  7:51:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Usually the answer will be yes but subjects do not often recognize this which is why a hypnotist will use tests such as telling a person they can not open their eyed and then telling them to try and open their eyes. This is not for the benefit of the hypnotist but the benefit of the subject.
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andrea15

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/26/2012 :  12:49:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit andrea15's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi
I always explain to new clients, exactly what they can expect from hypnosis. Sometimes even though I do explain, their preconceptions prevent them from taking on board what I am telling them. That's why I repeat before I start the session of hypnotherapy with them. I do everything I can to make sure that they are on song with where I am coming from. I also take time to get to know them thoroughly when taking the case study and use that information to guide me to design their induction to suit their psyche. I would have thought that most hypnotherapists would at least discuss what hypnosis is like.
I do get people coming to me who report that they have had hypnotherapy before but they don't think it worked because they didn't 'go under' and were aware of everything that was being said to them. I prefer people not to talk about me in that way.
However, it has to be said that despite my diligence in this there are occasionally people who report back saying along the lines of 'I don't know how you did it because I didn't go under' grrr.
So it's an idea to re-examine what you remember about the session and the initial introductory session and try to remember if anything was discussed along those lines. If not then the therapist was doing herself and you a dis-service.
Chhoose carefully next time - you are right it is expensive and for the money you pay you deserve a top professional.
See my blog on how to choose a therapist under rant and rave.

http://www.andrealowehypnotherapy.co.uk

Andrea Lowe
Hypnotherapist/analyst, NLP Practitioner and trainer
www.AndreaLoweHypnotherapy.co.uk

Edited by - andrea15 on 09/26/2012 1:48:17 PM
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