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Levers101

USA
3 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2004 :  5:37:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello all, I am new to this forum and to hypnosis in general. Just this weekend I started looking in hypnosis (esp. Self-hypnosis) as a means to turn around some behaviors that I have that I've had trouble remedying otherwise. I've started to read some scripts and induce myself into the hypnotic state.

My real questions are: how often should I work on a specific trait? I see from what I have read, that it is recommended once a day for a couple weeks or so. This sounds reasonable to me, because you probably can't change the unconscious mind instantly. (Mine has always seemed particularly stubborn.)
I'm also wondering if it is possible to work on more than one aspect I want to change in a day, in separate hypnotic sessions? Or is it best to work on just one thing for the prescribed couple of weeks, and if that seems to be working, change to another one?
For example, right now I'm focusing on Self-confidence. But I also want to focus on weight loss. Or maybe while I'm working on my self-confidence, I might want to have lucid dreams as well.
Thanks for any input.

anthony

Canada
305 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2004 :  11:42:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I read your post in amazement, and wonder at the credulity of people.
Some practitioners charge $100.00 per session, some even more. Do you suppose that we are all crooks? If it were as easy as you seem to believe, then indeed we would all be robbing the public blind...
Reading a book of the "how to succeed" kind has never to my knowledge brought success to anyone, yet you feel you can do it just by reading a script and relaxing. Wow, I wish you luck, I do indeed. Try working on one problem at a time, do it once per day for several months, and then get back to us and report on your findings please. That way, you will be able to know if I am right, or if you can indeed succeed using the method you suggest. Anthony
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frank

Panama
30 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2004 :  12:27:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
self hipnosys for weight loss works for me, iam able to stop the carb binge over 2 years

like i want is too have lucid dreams as well and mimic psychedelic drug for stop abusing on young ppl
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Honda600RR

2 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2004 :  1:19:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anthony

I read your post in amazement, and wonder at the credulity of people.
Some practitioners charge $100.00 per session, some even more. Do you suppose that we are all crooks? If it were as easy as you seem to believe, then indeed we would all be robbing the public blind...
Reading a book of the "how to succeed" kind has never to my knowledge brought success to anyone, yet you feel you can do it just by reading a script and relaxing. Wow, I wish you luck, I do indeed. Try working on one problem at a time, do it once per day for several months, and then get back to us and report on your findings please. That way, you will be able to know if I am right, or if you can indeed succeed using the method you suggest. Anthony



I thought Hypnosis is Self-Hypnosis?
Am I wrong?
And yes I think that practitioners are ripping people off.
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Levers101

USA
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Posted - 07/12/2004 :  6:09:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
I read your post in amazement, and wonder at the credulity of people.
Some practitioners charge $100.00 per session, some even more. Do you suppose that we are all crooks? If it were as easy as you seem to believe, then indeed we would all be robbing the public blind...
Reading a book of the "how to succeed" kind has never to my knowledge brought success to anyone, yet you feel you can do it just by reading a script and relaxing. Wow, I wish you luck, I do indeed. Try working on one problem at a time, do it once per day for several months, and then get back to us and report on your findings please. That way, you will be able to know if I am right, or if you can indeed succeed using the method you suggest. Anthony


Wow, I think the amazement is mutual, Anthony. I admit my first post was simplistic. But did you miss that I JUST STARTED looking into hypnosis as one way to help better my life? Do I doubt that professional hypnosis is better than simplistic self-hypnosis? No, I'm sure services from highly trained hypnotists would be better, and better yet if it was administered by someone with a degree in psychology or maybe even by a psychiatrist. And of course we aren't tripping over hypnotherapists here in rural Iowa (looking for them was part of my search this weekend, and I found about 5 or 6 in the whole State, and 2 within an hour's drive). That is kind of a week argument, I admit, but if it is possible for me to acheive results via self-hypnosis rather than shell out the $100+ per hour plus a long car drive, I'll try it.

You are absolutely right, no one ever changed by just reading a book. But are you saying that self-hypnosis is a sham? That no one can, through study of hypnotic methods, hypnotize themselves and achieve results from it? Isn't it reported fact that hypnotists oftentimes will actually end up putting themselves in a trance whilst giving a therapy session to a patient?

Personally, I have to doubt the professional credibility of people who open their statements with an ad hominem attack, and continue throughout with a sarcastic tone.

Edited by - Levers101 on 07/12/2004 6:35:07 PM
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anthony

Canada
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Posted - 07/14/2004 :  11:16:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My sarcasm, was directed at the simplistic manner in which you aproached the problem, and not at your attempt to help yourself, which I aplaude... To put this in a different manner, if you are prepared to exchange a time period of months for lack of training, then indeed you can do it without the training. Sadly, most people will become impatient and stop short of success without the time saved by a training program. I would be delighted if you posted some months down the road that you had achieved your goals, believe me it can be done with the right attitude and with patience....I repeat however, do it one problem at at time because you lack the knowledge and skill to try more than one, and expect to see results in two months rather than two weeks for each problem. anthony
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Levers101

USA
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Posted - 07/14/2004 :  6:08:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You make much more sense now. Aren't we all predisposed to want instant results... I will see in time, as you say. I don't suppose you can even put professional help in any sort of time box either. All dependent on the person ect ect.
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quickdraw69

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2004 :  6:19:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anthony is right in his own rude way as it seems that is why he posts to be able to knock people down rather then help honestly and for my money i'm not sure he could be a very good therapist in his own right with that kind of attitude. Any way his answers are good ones if you get rid of the attitude.

So let me try to help in a better way. All hypnosis is self-hypnosis any one can choose to be hypnotized or not. That being said to do self-hypnosis is a very hard thing to do and get any resaults but it can and has been done by many people with great resaults. In my oppinion you should start with just one subject and work on that. I suggest the self-confidence first because in my experiance alot of weight problems can stem from that. You more then likly will have to give it some time to work as it is very unlikely that anyone can get the resaults your after in the amount of time you have stated. The only people I know of that can do what you have stated in that period of time is trained experianced meditators. So please allow at least a month or two to get your resaults and if you do not get the resaults you are looking for please do not give up on hypnosis. Hypnosis is a very powerful tool that can help you with the problems that your looking to resolve but for many self-hypnosis does not work and they do need the help of a trained hypnotherapist toget there.

To Honda600rr and all others who think the way he does all I can say is i'm sorry you feel that way. But you need to remember that hypnotherapy training is not cheap and to be a good hypnotherapist you need to continuly keep training and updateing. Also please try to remember that it may be expensive to go to a hypnotherapist but what is the cost if you do not? What will it cost you to keep smoking? For most $1,000 to $2,000 a year and possible the loss of the qaulity and maybe even the complete loss of their life. Compare that to the $200 to $400 that a good hypnotherapist will cost to get ride of the problem forever and possible help you live a much longer and better life. To me theres no comparison. You can take anything you might go to a hypnotherapist for and do the same thing for if you feel the need for hypnosis for something it IS costing you something.

Levers101 and any others if you have anymore questions I may be able to help with please feel free to contact me via email or post and i'll try to answer asap.

P.s. Please forgive any errors in my post as i'm trying to adjust to new glasses.
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Rudiger650

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Posted - 12/05/2004 :  9:41:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Heres what I want to know, and I suppose the answer depends on the problem and its severity, but I'm told hypnosis is not a permanent solution. Does this mean that everyday stimulus undoes it or what? Will I ever get to stop hypnotising myself? PErhaps when my life is "successful"...
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HypnoDoc

USA
365 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2004 :  1:52:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit HypnoDoc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes you are correct the answer depends on the exact problem and the severity. For many people Hypnosis is a permanent solution for their issues. Self Hypnosis can be almost like Yoga for some people in that they find it very relaxing and can give themselves positive suggestions whenever they feel like it.

Your life is already successful - perhaps you just need that success to show in different ways.

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anthony

Canada
305 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2004 :  7:25:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by quickdraw69

Anthony is right in his own rude way as it seems that is why he posts to be able to knock people down rather then help honestly and for my money i'm not sure he could be a very good therapist in his own right with that kind of attitude. Any way his answers are good ones if you get rid of the attitude.

So let me try to help in a better way.


Perceptive of you my friend but not perceptive enough (G).....
During my days in the Navy, I boxed for relaxation, so allow me to use this analogy....When you are knocked down, what exactly do you learn? well, you might learn that the other guy is the superior boxer it's true, but you might also learn that you got careless! If the later, you will pay more attention next time, and save yourself from further damage as well. Most of the posters here are looking inwards at problems, but looking outwards for help, and you know in many cases that what they look for is beyond their reach anyway, both as to cost, and as to availablity of well trained practitioners.
I shake them up to force them to look within sometimes, and sometimes to take such action as will assist them at no cost. It doesn't always work, I don't expect it to, but it works often enough to be worth the effort....I guarantee as a long time scout leader, that once a young man looks without, to see what he can do for others, his life changes enormously. My point, get off your ass young man and stop feeling sorry for yourself. Look to see how you can be of help to others, and an amazing change will take place, even when it comes to relating to girls.......
Going back to those Navy days, I too was shy, but that's another story, anyway on one occassion I was invited to spare with someone my own weight and height, and agreed though I was not very experienced. He had me tied up in knots very quickly, and I knew he was the superior boxer. I learned to watch him as he spared with others and later when he again invited me to spar with him he demonstrated a disdain he was to pay for. Instead of trying some other move to beat me, he tried the same one that had worked for him before, and I hammered him good. He was still superior to me in skill, but that evening he learned a respect that I earned by remembering what counter to use for that particullar move.
Now at seventy six, I am long retired, but still have all the experiences I gained over the years, stuff from Navy days, days as a scout leader, youth leader etc, and as a parent and grandparent. I have more skills today than I had as a youth, and I pass them on to those who will use them. The others fall by the wayside, angry and frustrated, and nothing I can do about it, they are too lazy to learn, and that is hardly my fault. You offer a "better way", I suggest you really offer a different way, but have it any way you wish, I am long past the time when browny points are important to me.
The only reason I am reply to your comments, is that I noted your perception, and consider it worth offering a full explanation.
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Rudiger650

16 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2004 :  10:16:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seems pretty obvious to me that what we could all use is a term in the Navy, and a good book about Bruce Lee. I envy anthony's attitude, awhile ago I would've hated it, until I realized that if anthony doesn't give a darn about what I think of him then my hate is only self depreciating. I can only hope I'll be so proud one day, well...proud and alive.
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anthony

Canada
305 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2004 :  2:09:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"I can only hope that one day I'll be so proud."Let me be as blunt in replying to a compliment, as I am to an insult (G) WHY ARE YOU NOT PROUD OF YOURSELF NOW? If you are doing the best you can with what you have, and if you strive to improve yourself over time, you have every right to be proud. The only person who should hang his or her head, is one who refused to use the skills God gave them, and depend on others to do everything for them....I see each of us as competent persons, able to achieve much more than we do, but hung up on the idea that somebody else is better, knows more, or has more skill. This is true of course, we can always find someone else who is better in some way, but all that means is that we too can be that good given time and effort.
If there is any secret to how to be proud of yourself, I suppose it begins with gratitude that you have life and health sufficient to function well. That you have the opportunity to be of help to others less fortunate, and that you DO it, not think about it....What did you do today to be proud of?

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Stefanie

Belgium
10 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2005 :  8:19:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Exuse me...I hear prizes my ears tinkle bout...I go this wednsday for the first time and I will only pay 15$...It's a well known and reliable one...On prescription of my own psychiater(shrink)....
I wouldn't go there if I had to pay such an amount of money...
that's to crazy...

Life is what happens to you while you're bussy makin' other plans(John Lennon)
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