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Suggest-o-Man

Australia
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Posted - 12/05/2005 :  10:43:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Members may have come across mention of devices known as "hypnotic seals" from time to time in the literature, which were centered on a very authoritarian form of hypnosis, and may understand the "hypnotic seal" as being a suggestive routine that is applied to a subject so that the subject can not be hypnotized by anyone other than the hypnotist placing the "seal" upon them (the "seal" sealing them off from all except the hypnotist).

These are often characterized as being very negative circumstances -- especially in relation to medical hypnotists placing "seals" on their subjects so that they could never be hypnotized by a "lay hypnotist" and, also, it is said that once a subject is "sealed" it may take some effort to remove the "seal".

The concept of "seals" also suggests other sinister activities such as "mind control".

Perhaps the only text-book that deals with the application and removal of "hypnotic seals" (and supplies detailed scripts for doing so) is: Teitebaum, M., Hypnosis Induction Technics, Charles C. Thomas, (Springfield), 1965, pages 104-110.

Also, in the same book, there is an "interesting" chapter (pages 167-178) on "Governmental Uses of Hypnosis".

However, there may be a significant use for the "hypnotic seal" in modern times.
The famous Danish hypnotist Carl Sextus (the author of the book "Hypnotism", published in Chicago in 1893) placed a strong protective "seal" on a woman who had been, prior to that, repeatedly hypnotized over an extended period by her controlling husband (see Hypnotism, pages 166-167) so that, despite being an excellent subject, her husband would never be able to hypnotize her again.
This is a set of circumstances that might just also be apppropriate for such a sort of hypnotherapeutic intervention today.

Edited by - Suggest-o-Man on 12/05/2005 10:49:58 PM

anthony

Canada
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  12:18:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do so love these fairy tales with the subject being hypnosis. Even back in 1993 nobody who was anybody believed in seals or their effectiveness.
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mark-gil

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  6:06:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit mark-gil's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Anthony is right. The "seal" was a fantasy created by certain licensed mental health workers in an attempy to "protect" their patients from the "uneducated,and incompetent lay hypnotists".What right has anyone to attempt to prevent anyone else from making a decision to enter hypnosis with a person of their choice?
Where were the ethics of these so-called professionals?
Of course, the joke is that the seal doesn't work.
It is easily overcome by using an instant induction and/or
a regression to the time the effort to seal them was made and then suggest "it is now gone". With Respect, Gil Boyne

Gil Boyne
www.gil-boyne.com
[Gil Passed Away May 5, 2010]
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anthony

Canada
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Posted - 12/07/2005 :  10:10:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On second thoughts, perhaps seals DO have a use. They would work very well for an inept practitioner, and so prevent the client from being ripped off by a fake who didn't know what they were doing. I wonder however, since I have only met one person who had been previously sealed, how that seal would work when I don't mention hypnosis, and have the client in and out, with all suggestions given, without them knowing that therapy has been performed. Any proficient practitioner can do this, but we would never know we had broken a seal, since it would never react, and once bypassed, would be broken for ever obviously...
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Suggest-o-Man

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Posted - 12/13/2005 :  7:47:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the 1950s and 1960s there was some considerable concern in some quarters that an individual, having been repeatedly hypnotized by "a professional", would become (over time) a much better hypnotic subject, and be able able to go into a "far deeper" state, far more rapidly -- and that, then, because of this, they would easily become the victim of an amateur hypnotist who was just "playing aound with hypnosis" as a party trick.

Recently, in Sydney, Australia, a young man committed a series of sexual assaults upon women that he had observed up on stage as participants in a stage hypnotist's performance at a university, and had formed the opinion that they were excellent hypnotic subjects on the basis of their responses to the stage hypnotists techniques and suggestions.

Over a period of time, having fostered a superficial social friendship with some of these women, he enticed them back to his apartment, and then hypnotized them repeatedly using exactly the same techniques as the stage hypnotist had used -- as I recall under the pretext of assisting their studies, memory, stress levels, etc.

(And, of course, given that they had met at a performmance of stage hypnosis, hypnosis was a perfrctly legitimate topic of conversation.)

Whilst in very deep hypnosis they were raped and otherwise abused, and the events were also recorded on videotape. Fortunately, he was eventually caught. He committed suicide before the cases got to trial, so is no longer a danger.

I wonder if the stage hypnotist had placed a "seal" on each of the young women in his show, whether they would have been immune to the rapist's inductions (given that he used exactly the same words, movements, and procedures as the stage hypnotist)?

Edited by - Suggest-o-Man on 12/13/2005 8:00:13 PM
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mark-gil

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Posted - 12/13/2005 :  8:00:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit mark-gil's Homepage  Reply with Quote
To present a lurid story as factual without any identifying details such as names, places, dates and how to access reporting in the media archives is very irresponsible, and potentially harmful to the profession. In legal terms it is hearsay and inadmissable!
With Respect for the truth.Gil Boyne

Gil Boyne
www.gil-boyne.com
[Gil Passed Away May 5, 2010]

Edited by - mark-gil on 12/13/2005 8:01:54 PM
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anthony

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Posted - 12/14/2005 :  11:49:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have heard such stories many times online, and when the poster was challenged to present facts that could be checked, they were unable to do so. It is not acceptable to present stories of this type without proof, just because you heard them and feel they are interesting enough to pass on, they are not if untrue as most of them are...
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