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Valik

Russia
5 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2005 :  6:33:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello again.
I downloaded program from the net that changes brain waves to Alpha by music, recorded on this frequences...
Is it safe to use it? Is it possible to have any brain damadge in the future? Becouse it is very powerfull...
Thanks :-)

Matrixman

United Kingdom
399 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2005 :  6:44:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit Matrixman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Valik Brain entrainment is safe, what programe did you down load, and I might be able to give you some tips on how to use it best, as I have used a lot of brain entrainment tools, over a lot of years.

If it has consciousness it's already in a trance.
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Valik

Russia
5 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2005 :  7:15:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The program called "Hypno Doctor" on the Download.com
It would be nice to get some tips...
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Matrixman

United Kingdom
399 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  07:58:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit Matrixman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I this is a new programe for me, yet i did have a look at it, the place where you can add your suggestions, it you look at the suggestions it as there read something like this, " I am confident" I learn faster" what I suggest it to add, use "you are confident" and You can learn faster" this way you, a more rounded angle on the suggestions. with more inpact, and if you also, use your own language, then you get even more scope, and power from the programe.

ue it for five day, then give it a rest for 2-3 days then us for 7 days then give it a brake for 1-2 days, then use it, for 7 days, then give it a day or so, this way you can, play attention to how, the suggestions are working.

Hope this was helpful.

If it has consciousness it's already in a trance.

Edited by - Matrixman on 12/07/2005 07:59:51 AM
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Valik

Russia
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Posted - 12/07/2005 :  6:20:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the tips Matrixman.
Can you or any other user here on the forum please, give their opinion about this software?
Is it effective? Is it worse to buy it?
I use it without the music part, becouse it feels like my head about to explode and after the session i still feel hypnotized for a hour...Is it normal?
Does subliminal text works without getting into the trance state?

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anthony

Canada
305 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2005 :  10:35:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anything bought off the net is suspect, and if it is uncomfortable to use, throw it away as dangerous. Much better waste money than do damage. I use music from time to time, but under controlled circumstances, and have never had a client suffer discomfort, so would be very suspicious of something that made them feel as you describe. Tell me, how much is your mind worth to you? If the answer is "a lot" consult a good practitioner before messing with it, and use a little common sense. Ever found listening to music uncomfortable before? Incidentally, just to correct a misconception, what you are doing is NOT hypnosis.....
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Valik

Russia
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Posted - 12/07/2005 :  10:56:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anthony, have you seen the soft?
Why isn't it a hypnosis? Maybe I dont realy understand the term...
Thank you.
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anthony

Canada
305 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2005 :  12:03:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No Valik, I have not seen the software, your description was enough. Hypnosis is not just an alpha state, it varies from second to second, so what you are describing is a state of relaxation only, and is closer to "auto suggestion" than to hypnosis. I am not telling you it won't work, but I am telling you to use common sense, and if it feels uncomfortable, don't use it again. Music is not supposed to make you feel ready to explode as you well know, so the effects you are feeling are not signs of something good. As an ethical practitioner, I don't need to check out every con on the internet, in order to see if they are good or not. That is for the person wishing to purchase them to do...
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n/a

162 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2005 :  3:01:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Take some time out to research the subject, looking at a variety of authors.
That is read about it before you practically use it.
The old saying --You cannot run before you can walk--- comes into play here
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mark-gil

United Kingdom
445 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2005 :  3:21:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit mark-gil's Homepage  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by anthony
Music is not supposed to make you feel ready to explode. Hi Anthony, I know this is a digression but I feel ready to explode when I hear rap music or in a restaurant when the background music is `really juvenile pop musisc (played too loudly). I always ask if it can be turned down low or turned off. I plead that I having a headache. One time, the waitress sent the manager over and when I repeated my request she said, "Oh that music is for our help" I said, "cancel our orders" and we left. I hope others will do the same. ( I just couldn't resist telling this)

Gil Boyne
www.gil-boyne.com
[Gil Passed Away May 5, 2010]

Edited by - mark-gil on 12/16/2005 3:23:13 PM
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n/a

162 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2005 :  3:52:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gil
On the subject of music that alters how you feel.Do you look at JEFF RENSE s website--full of alternative news or news from a different angle--It is cited on the site that the American govornment controls its citizens by issuing appropriate subliminal suggestions embedded in local airwave music and television programs--thus keeping the population on track---sounds a bit AREA 51 Roswell ish--perhaps with your age and experience you might be able to give your enlightened opinion on the matter
Mike
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anthony

Canada
305 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2005 :  4:28:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
True Mark, I hadn't considered this aspect, but I suppose any music you don't enjoy can lead to an uncomfortable feeling (G) On the other hand, I know of no music that is intended to relax, that might give that result. I always use light classics, or baroque for certain desired results, such as learning languages etc.
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anthony

Canada
305 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2005 :  10:52:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gee Mike, although you asked Gil about this, may I jump in with a suggestion? When you go to those sites that offer FREE music for the taking, does it ever occur to you that they MUST have an ulterior motive, and likely it is subliminal, and directing you in a direction that has value to them not you? How about those CDs you buy, is it perhaps likely that they contain subliminal messages also?
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hDoc

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Posted - 01/16/2006 :  10:23:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit hDoc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey, I am the author of the Hypno-Doctor software. I did want to point out that there is NOTHING subliminal in the audio. Yes, I do provide it for free and only ask for donations and support thru visiting advertisements thru http://www.hypno-doctor.com. I started this project because I am a software engineer by trade and thought that it may have benefit. I completed research and consulted with several "experts" and did my best to put together something that everyone may enjoy and benefit from. I could not release Hypno-Doctor as open source because of licensing agreements for some of the native api that I use. The next best thing was to release it as freeware. I am open to any questions, feedback, advise, comments or concerns. I appreciate everyone that has responded positively to the software, and will do my best to continue to provide something of value to the community! Many Thanks.

Very Respectfully,
Jason Boeglen
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mark-gil

United Kingdom
445 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2006 :  12:16:17 AM  Show Profile  Visit mark-gil's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello Mike, I have mixed feelings about the subject of sublimal
programming so I prefer not to make public comment on the subject.
With Respect, Gil Boyne

Gil Boyne
www.gil-boyne.com
[Gil Passed Away May 5, 2010]
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anthony

Canada
305 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2006 :  3:02:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jason, my comments regarding the planting of subliminal messages was said tongue in cheek, but fact is, it is possible if one chooses to be serious about it (G). On the other hand, I am rather curious, since I have indeed used music in some of my research projects, but have never seen any need to use it for normal therapy usage, and would like to know what uses you see for it other than for language training. the methods of which I am well aware?
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