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Begemot

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Posted - 12/22/2005 :  4:21:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just want to hear your oppinions on this theme. Thank you.

mark-gil

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/22/2005 :  9:06:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit mark-gil's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hypnosis is a natural state of mind with special identifying characteristics. "Hypnosis is neither religious or irreligious, good or evil, helpful or harmful"! It simply opens the door to the path that leads directly to the "Inner Mind". If we change the wording and call it "Spiritual Reverie", the same identifying characteristics are still present. This natural state of mind existed in mankind long before the word "hypnosis" was coined.
Every culture has it's own rituals (inductions into a trance state)
and ceremonies which are usually spiritual in nature and operate to set aside the cognitive function. How this state of mind is used, abused or exalted is decided by humans, consciously or subconsciously. Is religious ectasy to be labeled "hypnosis ?"We cannot identify all inner mind behaviors and phenomena as "Hypnosis"or even "trance". The problem in mental health therapies is the need to label (diagnose) and then teach the client to live up the diagnosis.
Until we acknowledge our spiritual and divine nature, we remain
lesser animals with a highly developed brain. Every hypnotherapist
I have ever met, who has been in the work for ten years or more, doing clinical work with clients, has come to acknowledge a higher power, a source from which our creativity arises. Hypnotherapist who practice Transforming Therapy, (other than minor symptoms and problems)are very fortunate. We are all conditioned to a cynical disbelief in our ability to use our own powers in our own behalf.
We know that others can be transformed, but we experience great difficulty in giving to ourselves the authority that clients give to us.
As we continue to witness the incredible changes occuring in our clients, we may finally come to sing out[i]],"Amazing Grace that saved a wretch like me, for I was lost and now I'm found--was blind and now I see"[i]
We may never know how IT works, but we can give thanks each day that are the witness to the Glory and the Miracle of Transformation.
Most talk of "Body and Mind, but very add SOUL to the equation.
I say to all therapists, of every persuasion, "Give up your fears and reservations, put on the armor of "Trust in Spirit" and learn that you can overcome your ignorance of the inner power available to you.
You can shake off the cynicism of materialism and the pronouncements of Mind Scientists who search for labels to define and explain the power of the "Invisable World"
With Respect, Gil Boyne

Gil Boyne
www.gil-boyne.com
[Gil Passed Away May 5, 2010]

Edited by - mark-gil on 12/23/2005 3:24:41 PM
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Begemot

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Posted - 12/23/2005 :  2:34:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for answer. Im not against of the idea of hypnosis, its simply interesting question for me.
Sorry for misunderstanding, would you explain me: what do priests say about the transmission to another world? Do they have the same thoughts?
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mark-gil

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Posted - 12/23/2005 :  3:22:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit mark-gil's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello, I would not speak for priests. I am sure there is a variety of opinions and Catholic priests follow the precepts of the Pope. Gil Boyne

Gil Boyne
www.gil-boyne.com
[Gil Passed Away May 5, 2010]
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Begemot

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Posted - 12/23/2005 :  3:42:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you. I'm just searching the answer. I want to speak with one of them about it but I'm afraid he wouldn't understand me. I want to find the necessary intonation and to know something before the discussion.
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anthony

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Posted - 12/23/2005 :  9:28:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of the first skilled users of hypnosis was a Monk, Abbe Ferier (sp), but in the interest of good reasoning, Priests are knowledgeable in Religion, Hypnotists are (hopefully) knowledgeable in hypnosis. I am knowledgeable in both, but they are two different subjects, and each of us is responsible for our own understanding, so you must use your own mind, not depend on ours.....
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Begemot

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Posted - 12/24/2005 :  03:28:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, thank you.
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n/a

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Posted - 02/05/2006 :  5:30:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have spoken to a number of Priests and a couple of Bishops regarding hypnosis---they treat it like the PLAGUE !!!!!!!!
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anthony

Canada
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Posted - 02/05/2006 :  6:43:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"They treat it like the Plague" So do a lot of lay persons, but for your interest, I have been asked to train Priests in certain areas of the Church, such as working with the poor, or refugees etc....
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mark-gil

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/05/2006 :  10:38:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit mark-gil's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In my years of teaching hypnotherapy, I have had nine priests in class, some of whom were teachers in Catholic Schools.
I realize that they were atypical, but the old
Church antagonism that arose from the practices of 19th century
mediums and spiritualism is finally fading away. The Pope endorsed the use of hypnosis in childbirth many years ago.
With Respect,

Gil Boyne
www.gil-boyne.com
[Gil Passed Away May 5, 2010]

Edited by - mark-gil on 02/05/2006 10:40:35 PM
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