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stickface

USA
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Posted - 01/29/2007 :  6:54:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't used self-hypnosis in quite a while (over a year). But with some recent stress, I figured I'd give it a try. I don't know that I've ever been able to successfully get into a deep hypnotic state, but I've minimally used it as a relaxation technique.

Here's the process I used:
1. I believe it's called the Jacobson technique to relax the body initially. Further imagined each limb individually as if it were encased in concrete and the harder I tried to move it, the deeper I would go. Limbs got to a state where they felt asleep (pins and needles).
2. Concentrated on my breathing. Got it to an even state without any diaphram unsteadiness.
3. Began to count backward by twos from 100.
4. While counting started think about the things I wanted to explore.

Here's where it got weird.

4. I began to feel my head start shaking. Just an uncontrolled shaking. I let it go for a little bit, curious as to what was going on.
5. Woke up. Relaxed on the couch before physically getting up.

I knew this wasn't in my mind. I could feel it. As my curiousity was piqued, I wanted to give it another shot, but I wanted to confirm this was happening with a camera.

So, I setup the camera and began proceding through the above steps.
This time the shaking was much more violent. I felt as if my head were being slapped on the side. My tounge became tense and I could feel my teeth clenching. Also my arms were shaking this time. They were rapidly shaking back and forth (from the elbow mostly - about 3-4 inches back and forth).
An hour later, my neck is still sore from the shaking.
I woke myself up again and stopped the camera. The camera confirmed that this was indeed happening.

So, my question is...
What the hell happened???
As a scientific thing, it's really damn interesting. As a physical thing happening to oneself, it's pretty scary.
I DO feel more relaxed mentally. But...

I haven't seen anything relating a similar experience. As I hope most of you are more experienced than I, I'd like to know if anyone has seen this before.

I feel I can probably suggest myself away from this, but am worried that I could be putting myself in danger.

Thanks,
-S

Boltcanuck

Canada
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Posted - 02/03/2007 :  1:32:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From your posting the answer lies in what you say happens just prior to the shaking.

4. While counting started think about the things I wanted to explore.

This sounds to me like an abreaction to the suggestion. What are the things that you're trying to or wanting to explore? Perhaps a sensitive area within yourself that you might want to work at with another, or do a self talk and ask yourself the subject you were considering exploring.
It at each attempt at self-hypnosis you find the shaking happening at the same point (The fourth step) then it's my belief the issue lays there.
If it is NOT at this point, then more information would be needed, such as what suggestions you are giving yourself, or what your thoughts are on.
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ianj

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/28/2007 :  2:54:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the Jacobson technique takes things rather too quickly. I've learnt to spend 20-40 min sessions (daily if I can), by first relaxing physically my body/limbs (let your thoughts roam) and only when I'm happy with that, did I move on to mental relaxation. To clear my mind I found I had to "concentrate" on "nothing" (or the speckled blackness of my eyelids!)
Once you have control of you own physical and mental relaxation, should you move onto "autosuggestion"
Don't rush things, it's not a race.

ianj
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gerardv

Australia
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Posted - 05/29/2007 :  04:40:00 AM  Show Profile  Visit gerardv's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Perhaps the slowing down thing is worth focusing on as mentioned. Just for an idea, do this at your next session if you want to understand. Make the session about this one thing only. And focus on keeping your neck, shoulders and head / face muscles completely limp so that no shaking can happen (completely relaxed muscles will not move), and ask yourself this question "if the previously experienced shaking was indeed an unconscious reaction to an issue you have been focusing on, what would that issue be". You might be surprised at what you find out about yourself. JMTCW

Gerard V
Comedy Hypnotist www.gerardv.com
www.melbournehypnotist.com
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Autoimmune

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Posted - 07/19/2007 :  02:33:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I find this very interesting because it happened to me, too and only the other night. But it didn't happen in the same way. I hypnotized myself, which took approximately 20 minutes, most of which was spent relaxing. (There is a strong similarity between self-hypnosis and meditation.) I began to use techniques for non-auditory auto-communication. I felt as if I wasn't "deep" enough, not in an effective level of hypnosis, because I failed to illicit the desired response. I decided to repeat hypnotic induction. Within several minutes, I was bobbing back and forth as if I had the Torah in hand. It was involuntary and the movements were aggressive. It was reminiscent of when I found myself in deep study. Sometimes, while in deep study, a nodding sensation would take over, but it wasn't just a sensation; I was actually nodding. In comparison to what occurred last night, however, the movements were minuscule. Last night I thought I had overdone the hypnotic trance and put myself in a state that was unacceptable, meaning that I was near unconsciousness and the body fought to stay alert and protect itself from harm. In fact, this is my theory: that your violent movements were the mind rejecting the deep level of trance you had put yourself in because on a subconscious level, it did not want to be left in such a vulnerable state.

Edited by - Autoimmune on 07/19/2007 02:37:28 AM
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lifecoach

USA
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  7:31:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit lifecoach's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello,

I had a similar experience, however
I was not doing self hypnosis, I was
being hypnotized by a hypnotherapist.

My whole body became shaking and vibrating
very strongly.

According to the hypnotherapist, that put me
under, she said sometimes when you go that deep
into hypnosis, your energy vibration increases
and therefore effects your body, physically.

According to her, there is nothing to worry about.

Ryan
Personal Empowerment Coach
http://www.hypnotherapymindpower.com

Edited by - lifecoach on 11/05/2007 7:32:10 PM
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