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connected_ryan

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Posted - 12/13/2011 :  06:02:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been trying hypnosis mp3s for a year with no success, actually maybe i was in a light trance.

I recently started self hypnosis and i feel sensations akin to trance. my eye lids flutter, i have rem, i feel tingly. i feel very relaxed.

I tried some suggestions like wave of pleasure and it worked. i tried giving myself a trance word to get back into trance and it worked.

I however tried feeling something and it did not work
I tried to get my self to quit smoking ad it did not work
I tried getting deeper and it did not work

I then remembered a video i watched on hypnosis. and he hypnotist asks the client to raise a finger to answer his questions using the subcons mind.

so i tried that during one of my sessions. i asked my subcons mind if i could go any deeper and it responded with the no finger.

I want to get deep enough into trance to have halucinations but my subcons mind wont let me go any deeper.

i tried talking to it abut depth, i tried imagining i was in a room that represented my subcons mind and anything i say would work. but it didnt allow me to go deeper.

right now i think im in a trance state just below medium trance. i want to get into a deep state or at least a medium state.

also i know some people think that depth is not important for success. but i disagree. i cannot get most suggestions to work in my state and isnt that proof enough.

I know this is a complex matter but my main questions or areas where i need help big time is.

help me get deeper tell me what to tell my mind or what to think to get deeper.

help me get deep enough to halucinate.


thanks for your help if you can provide any insight

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Posted - 12/19/2011 :  1:29:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit HypnoDoc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"I have been trying hypnosis mp3s for a year with no success"

You say this and then you post your success and go on to describe everything that "worked."

"I however tried feeling something and it did not work"

What is it that your are trying to feel? Stop thinking about it so much - you are overanalyzing.

"I tried to get myself to quit smoking ad it did not work"

Smoking is one of the last things you should try using self hypnosis - it is quite complex and therefore should be done with a Hypnotherapist. If you have had a pretty good experience with self hypnosis so far - then that shows you are a good candidate - a session or two with a professional Hypnotist will do wonders. Ask the Hypnotist to help you with your self hypnosis trigger while you are there. Start with small things like nail biting or something easy. Then move into more difficult projects. Only do one project at a time.

"I tried getting deeper and it did not work"

How do you know? What does it feel like to be deeper? You are trying too hard and that could be causing you to keep from achieving what you want. Just relax into it. Trance happens all by itself many times a day without your "working at it" - so relax and just let it happen.

"I want to get deep enough into trance to have hallucinations"

For what possible reason? How is that going to be of any help?

"I know some people think that depth is not important for success. but i disagree. i cannot get most suggestions to work in my state and isnt that proof enough."

No that is not proof of anything. Because you have an opinion does not make it a reality. Once you have completed years of Hypnosis Training then come back and have that discussion. Just do a search for it in this forum and you will find plenty of educated and qualified opinions on the subject.

Why ask for help from "the pros" if you already know everything?

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Posted - 12/19/2011 :  10:22:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit Bennu Lugh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I read a couple people post that the person asking the question is "over analyzing" the situation. Being someone who does "over analyze" things, I have to say it's a little frustrating to have someone tell me I'm over analyzing. The most effective way suggestions drop into my subconscious is if I allow my subconscious the ability to analyze them and then accept them as logical. And that's not just me. That's 50% of the population. I have some clients who I can give direct suggestions to and others who need the logical "if/then" suggestions. At no time should they consider themselves over analyzing, because that's when they get frustrated and literally say, "Well I guess it just doesn't work for me".

I find that they are much more receptive and trusting if I fully explain what hypnosis is.

HypnoDoc is right, though. Just because you can't get the suggestions to work in the state that you've gotten to doesn't necessarily mean that you aren't deep enough. Perhaps you just aren't phrasing the suggestions properly for your subconscious to analyze them, confirm their logic, and then finally accept them.

Now as for ideomotor response - If you're telling yourself to lift the "yes" finger to confirm acceptance of a suggestion, and the opposite finger raises instead, maybe it's because subconsciously you're fear is that the opposite finger will raise. This becomes a self fulfilling prophesy. For ideomotor to properly work spontaneously, you really need to have someone else hypnotise you and give you the suggestions. Otherwise it's kind of like trying to prove your not ticklish by trying to tickle yourself.
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